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Old 16-04-2013, 10:31 PM
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Hi there,
I was just browsing for safes to buy then realised most safes are sold for $800 - $9xx plus in singapore.
Even a small electronic safe costs abt $300?

Anyway tot of buying from China, it would be worth if it there are a certain quantity (10 - 30?) so that shipping costs would be shared?

Think 1 safe of 520*330*390 mm dimension should be less than USD$100 including shipping. Im not 100% sure. just emailed the suppliers to find out more.
Anyone interested to buy a safe for this GB?

Exploring only... if not enough numbers then nvm... go taka and just buy that sentrysafe...
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Old 16-04-2013, 11:08 PM
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search Diplomat Safe online and take a look. These type of heavy items it makes no sense getting from overseas. Even my small safe is rated at 40kg weight. I got mine locally for less than 250 sgd. Cant rmb the name of the company but they have a shop in TPY central.

Its fireproof btw...
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Old 16-04-2013, 11:22 PM
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Hi there,
I was just browsing for safes to buy then realised most safes are sold for $800 - $9xx plus in singapore.
Even a small electronic safe costs abt $300?

Anyway tot of buying from China, it would be worth if it there are a certain quantity (10 - 30?) so that shipping costs would be shared?

Think 1 safe of 520*330*390 mm dimension should be less than USD$100 including shipping. Im not 100% sure. just emailed the suppliers to find out more.
Anyone interested to buy a safe for this GB?

Exploring only... if not enough numbers then nvm... go taka and just buy that sentrysafe...
You could also consider a non fire rated safe.
The advantages - Much lighter for shipping,
More real storage space compared to a fire safe of similar size
You are storing Metals so less afraid of fire damage.
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Old 17-04-2013, 01:12 AM
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A light safe is a useless safe if you are storing valuables.

Find out the security rating of the safe as determined by an independent testing facility and use that to decide whether it is going to do you any good.
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Old 17-04-2013, 10:26 AM
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You could also consider a non fire rated safe.
The advantages - Much lighter for shipping,
More real storage space compared to a fire safe of similar size
You are storing Metals so less afraid of fire damage.
I respectfully disagree. IMO fireproofing is my main purpose of getting a safe, with sercurity being secondary. A fire would preserve the metals, but significantly decrease the value to spot or even below (melt cost).

The best sercurity is when no one else knows about your PM stack. After all, the best sercurity can be defeated by a knife to your wife/kid's throat.
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Old 17-04-2013, 11:03 AM
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search Diplomat Safe online and take a look. These type of heavy items it makes no sense getting from overseas. Even my small safe is rated at 40kg weight. I got mine locally for less than 250 sgd. Cant rmb the name of the company but they have a shop in TPY central.

Its fireproof btw...
our safe cannot store 1 whole panda sheet in
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Old 17-04-2013, 11:43 AM
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I respectfully disagree. IMO fireproofing is my main purpose of getting a safe, with sercurity being secondary. A fire would preserve the metals, but significantly decrease the value to spot or even below (melt cost).

The best sercurity is when no one else knows about your PM stack. After all, the best sercurity can be defeated by a knife to your wife/kid's throat.

yah lor. my main aim is to buy a fire-proof just in case there is a fire.
of course if my budget is bigger, i would prefer to buy a huge safe that cant be carted away.... lol
but too bad prefer to buy cheap, so tot of buying one from overseas. $100 for a small fire proof safe is quite worth it.
think bigger one abt $300 (compared to $900) only
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Old 17-04-2013, 11:54 AM
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I respectfully disagree. IMO fireproofing is my main purpose of getting a safe, with sercurity being secondary. A fire would preserve the metals, but significantly decrease the value to spot or even below (melt cost).

The best sercurity is when no one else knows about your PM stack. After all, the best sercurity can be defeated by a knife to your wife/kid's throat.
Yes the best security is secrecy...
and a big fire safe has less storage and is more difficult to hide.
In a big big fire, very rare in Singapore, the maximum loss is the premiums you paid. Gold and silver can always be recast into bars.

A lighter safe needs to be bolted to the floor or walls.
Usually you can't do that with a fire safe as the thick walls does not allow it.

It you are a gold stacker I guess you can make do with a smaller storage but a serious silver stacker will have storage problems after stacking for some time.
So different people will have different needs and wants...
No right or wrong...
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Old 17-04-2013, 12:24 PM
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Yes the best security is secrecy...
and a big fire safe has less storage and is more difficult to hide.
In a big big fire, very rare in Singapore, the maximum loss is the premiums you paid. Gold and silver can always be recast into bars.

A lighter safe needs to be bolted to the floor or walls.
Usually you can't do that with a fire safe as the thick walls does not allow it.

It you are a gold stacker I guess you can make do with a smaller storage but a serious silver stacker will have storage problems after stacking for some time.
So different people will have different needs and wants...
No right or wrong...
haha silver stacker must buy bigger safe lor...
anyway guess the safe GB is a no-go with so much diverse needs.

guess ill just fork out for a good fire-safe. me concerned abt fire melting the gold bar away.... LOL

cant wait to get a new home and then when renovating, cast a safe in a secret closet or something..... plus a safe at correct place is good fengshui. hahaha
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Old 17-04-2013, 02:28 PM
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haha silver stacker must buy bigger safe lor...
anyway guess the safe GB is a no-go with so much diverse needs.

guess ill just fork out for a good fire-safe. me concerned abt fire melting the gold bar away.... LOL

cant wait to get a new home and then when renovating, cast a safe in a secret closet or something..... plus a safe at correct place is good fengshui. hahaha
I think most stackers will be like you and prefer Fire rated safes...
The problem will be different size requirements....
Anyway you can get quite a few choices locally but of cos the price is higher.

btw some bad press about SentrySafes
Learn the flaw and make sure the safe you buy does not have the same problem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D33T4GOtB-U
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