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Old 03-02-2015, 03:48 PM
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Old 03-02-2015, 06:12 PM
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Hi Cherub,

Im not too sure who uchida's agent is, but u may want to contact this company since they sell uchida safes. Uchida safes are claimed to be made in japan but are in fact oemed from thailand (just fyi).
http://www.lizo.com.sg/safe.htm
I do provide locksmith services for safes but its better u check with uchida first.
Unfortunately I don't offer a discount as prices are fixed and controlled for 95% of our models. I do however, throw in some silver personally to senior members of this forum (up to 2oz) for larger models (600 price point and above).

Size - really depends on ur budget and size your home can accomodate (generally, larger is better because it is for the long term)
Brand - Chubb(most expensive, heaviest), Diplomat Safe, Eagle and Bumil are the market leaders for fire safes in Singapore. Eagle and bumil are offered by my competitors

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A safe is never 100% secured, given time, anything can be broken into, just like vaults. If stacking gold, safe deposit boxes are best because mata patrol the area more and got security guards with guns at the branch plus it is cost effective. For silver, it really depends on ur stack size as safe deposit boxes in sg can be expensive for the bigger ones.
A safe is to keep your valuables so that it will be safer than putting them in your drawer/cupboard/biscuit tin etc.
For a better coverage against home breaking, I do advise to get home insurance that is suitable for storing precious metals (some conditions like having a safe may be needed depending on policy(same applies for bullion dealers like ernest, bullionstar,pa etc), speak to your insurance agent or i can recommend someone i work with for referrals to u)
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Old 03-02-2015, 08:08 PM
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There was a thread to discuss the safe, insurance and so on.

If use Cisco or bank safe deposit box which no full insurance given if loss the valuable. You might get just few hundred compensation for few hindered thousand of gold. If go to vault with insurance which cost you a bomb. Why not play paper for precious medal. Buy sell more easy and on Internet. Physical previous medal which u need bring the the dealer or pawn shop which offer you at spot or below spot and transact when you reach them. The liquidation and timing are crucial and question for this case.

For me home content insurance is the most economy way for me for my mimics and gold.

However I did think of a more economy way. Register a sole propertieship company and register your home as home office. Then buy the business insurance and put all you stuff as inventory lol. No hassle for safe or so on. Buy whatever you like and just use a milo tin to store it. Get stolen claim insurance
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Old 03-02-2015, 11:38 PM
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There was a thread to discuss the safe, insurance and so on.

If use Cisco or bank safe deposit box which no full insurance given if loss the valuable. You might get just few hundred compensation for few hindered thousand of gold. If go to vault with insurance which cost you a bomb. Why not play paper for precious medal. Buy sell more easy and on Internet. Physical previous medal which u need bring the the dealer or pawn shop which offer you at spot or below spot and transact when you reach them. The liquidation and timing are crucial and question for this case.

For me home content insurance is the most economy way for me for my mimics and gold.

However I did think of a more economy way. Register a sole propertieship company and register your home as home office. Then buy the business insurance and put all you stuff as inventory lol. No hassle for safe or so on. Buy whatever you like and just use a milo tin to store it. Get stolen claim insurance
sounds legit and logical for home content insurance portion, however, not too sure with the sole prop idea, I have spoken to a few bullion dealers about safes locally and in australia(got insurance but still need safe)but i will be asking my general insurance specialist to confirm.
one other thing based on experience, 家贼难防. a good chunk of people buy safes to safeguard from 'insiders' at home and office, be it employees or maids, kids etc.
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Old 03-02-2015, 11:48 PM
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If I may add in a few other considerations:

1. Are you comfortable with the seller having your address?

2. Are you also comfortable with the fact that they have your combination code?

3. Would you want to be able to change your codes when the need arises?

These were some questions that I also asked myself when I wanted to get a safe.
just saw ur post Trifusion.
1) all safe companies have cases like this, customer will self-collect from our warehouse without supplying a delivery address.
2 and 3) some safes can change codes, some safes cannot change code. although not advisable, you can change the combination code(for those turning ones that are sold as 'non-changeable code') yourself, just need to study the mechanics abit, not that difficult actually.
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Old 04-02-2015, 10:38 AM
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sounds legit and logical for home content insurance portion, however, not too sure with the sole prop idea, I have spoken to a few bullion dealers about safes locally and in australia(got insurance but still need safe)but i will be asking my general insurance specialist to confirm.
one other thing based on experience, 家贼难防. a good chunk of people buy safes to safeguard from 'insiders' at home and office, be it employees or maids, kids etc.
I like the 家贼难防 which I have not stay with maids. Too bad if you valuable stole by own kids or relative. I use a simple cupboard to lock it only. This consider good for a precaution and not expose the valuable to everyone even you trust. Life is miserable if you not trust anyone even your kids, parent and spouse LOL.

Agent told me as long as it is police report and force open to your house the insurance will effect. However, you must prove the valuable value e.g receipt, invoices, transaction evident or so on.
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Old 05-02-2015, 01:54 PM
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If space is available, get a medium size safe.
It may not fit your wardrobe,
but you can store more stuff other than pm,
like certificates and other documents size legal stuff
That you do not want your kids or maids to handle by accident.

Also, if you can spent a few k on pm,
Then get a good and reliable safe.
My initial budget was sub700,
end up buying a 900+,
No regrets so far.
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Old 05-02-2015, 09:05 PM
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Good ideas for documents keeping.
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