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Old 03-06-2014, 09:01 PM
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I noticed that this year, the Singapore International Coin Fair 2014 required visitors to register using a real ID document.

I am not happy with this because I find that the information is totally unnecessary for marketing purposes.

Perhaps the organiser doesn't understand the issue well enough, but for Singaporeans, having one's NRIC number abused can lead to a lot of legal problems, especially in light of what I observe to be increasing incidence of identity theft in Singapore.

I'm not sure how the others feel, and so I'd like to get your responses.

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Old 03-06-2014, 09:31 PM
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Was surprised to asked to register on Saturday. But when I attended on Thursday I was able to freely went in and out.
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Old 03-06-2014, 10:21 PM
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so far of all conferences and forums I'd attended, mostly IT/tech and property fairs almost all of them requires some form of registration be it via online portals or counter registration.

from PA's perspective, information they'd gathered could be useful e.g. to identify the demography of coin collectors in terms of nationality, age... These information may be useful for planning of future coin fair.

It was my first time to SICF, and although I registered via the iPad app no one checked my registration at the entrance. I just walk in freely and come out after a few hours. Personally I don't mind PA capture my information, probably I am just too used to registering myself at most events I'd attended.

To be frank it never cross my mind on the consequence until our admin brought this up.
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Old 04-06-2014, 09:11 AM
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We're already asked for our IDs when we buy gold/silver. I never understood the purpose of that - to prevent money laundering?

I guess they're taking it one step further for coin shows.
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Old 04-06-2014, 09:09 PM
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I intend to challenge such data collection once the relevant parts of the Personal Data Protection Act (PDPA) comes into legal effect.

My point is quite simple: companies should only collect data that's necessary for the conduct of their business. How one's ID number is relevant with regard to attendance at a fair is beyond me. I have attended fairs in places like the USA where no ID is asked for.

Also, companies fail to realise that the lesser data collected now, the lesser headache they will face in terms of compliance costs with the PDPA in future.

Lastly, based on my several years of experience and observations, stackers love their privacy. This is something that the show organisers apparently fail to appreciate when demanding so much data.

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I stopped attending the fair cos of registration.
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Old 04-06-2014, 09:29 PM
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I see it as commercial deal, organiser paid for the place, they valued the data collection at point of entry to own what we filled in.

want to go in these doors?, here is the form, or else turn around and leave.

if you have objections, then they said, they paid for the place for people who are willing to volunteer information.

its a fair exchange.

entrants are filling information on their forms, not ours.

just like facebook, everything we uploaded, is own by facebook, not us-ours anymore.
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I'm fine with submitting data for fairs like furniture or other such nondescript items.

I loathe to submit ID data to strangers for more sensitive cases such as coin fairs, jewellery fairs, financial stuff, etc. Such info is sometimes shared without the owner's explicit consent. And in this day and age of data storage on Cloud, etc plus Google search, I shudder to think how easily our
data can be cross matched for unethical purposes.
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Old 05-06-2014, 09:11 AM
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I intend to challenge such data collection once the relevant parts of the Personal Data Protection Act (PDPA) comes into legal effect.

My point is quite simple: companies should only collect data that's necessary for the conduct of their business. How one's ID number is relevant with regard to attendance at a fair is beyond me. I have attended fairs in places like the USA where no ID is asked for.

Also, companies fail to realise that the lesser data collected now, the lesser headache they will face in terms of compliance costs with the PDPA in future.

Lastly, based on my several years of experience and observations, stackers love their privacy. This is something that the show organisers apparently fail to appreciate when demanding so much data.

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I hope those fair organisers who collected such data have a good IT security in place , any leak of personal information will be


Just saw on news some sing-pass accounts might be compromised .
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I see it as commercial deal, organiser paid for the place, they valued the data collection at point of entry to own what we filled in.

want to go in these doors?, here is the form, or else turn around and leave.

if you have objections, then they said, they paid for the place for people who are willing to volunteer information.

its a fair exchange.

entrants are filling information on their forms, not ours.

just like facebook, everything we uploaded, is own by facebook, not us-ours anymore.
What about foreigners? Did they ask to see passports?
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